[pnpgm] Game Update #8 - File #104 - Animals go wild!
Dorhak Red Wall
dorhak at comcast.net
Mon Mar 5 01:53:03 CET 2018
Leopards and wolves? What, are they critters from a menagerie? Got loose on board and a good reason ,for the sailors to abandon ship!
"Kiet, why don’t you and Z’leyra go fast after that officer? The rest of us will head toward that ship and see what's going on?"
Dorhak is is not intending to do anything more than move over nearer to the ship and see what can be seen. He's certainly not going on board with a loose, um, 'jaguar', I think Kiet called it? Let alone a wolf. Not till he knows more about what is happening.
> On March 2, 2018 at 9:33 PM pnpgm <pnpgm at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> HT Player Character Name Type Status/Notes Sex
> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------
> FH.John Haight...........Arawn.............Druid .Normal/Alfar... Ma
> ...Kevin Newark..........Dorhak............Warrior.Normal/Dwarf....Ma
> --.Tobie Bonahoom........Fremea............Sidh....Normal/Faerry.. Fe
> W2.David Sanders.........Kiet.Sunan........Acrobat Normal/Human ..Ma
> ...Don.Kerr..............Maelorna..........Dancer..Normal/Human....Fe
> ...Gilbert.Isla..........Mournath..........Sailor..Normal/Human....Ma
> R3 Panthera..............Pyandalgor........Hunter..Normal/Human....Ma
> R4.Wout Broere...........Unali.............Ninja...Normal/Human ..Fe
> R4.Alex Koponen..........Z'leyra...........Healer..Normal/Human ..Fe
> Animals: Corona [Eagle] Z'leyra
>
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> Game Update #8 sequence (file #104)
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>
> Admin Notes: None.
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> [Recap]
>
> From Mae: [Re: Actions]
> Maelorna sighs, considering it's the second human...
> ...given how Zin acted. "I wonder if it matters their...
> GM: Ack.
>
> From Arawn: [Re: Actions]
> IC:
> "Probably," came Arawn's wearied reply to the ...
>
> (OOC: effective Appearance of 115) and the man's taste's to
> gain the sailor's trust, thus hopefully avoiding any resistance
> to his spell.
>
> OOC:
>
> Arawn will use Acting and Rhetoric along with Appearance
> Modifier to use Influence Chance to get the sailor to agree
> to having a beneficial' spell cast on him/not resist the
> Forgetfulness. Forgetfulness at max EL, using his wand and the
> Sidh Tongue to boost. Using the variation to alter the sailor's
> memory so that he 'remembers' being chased by some drunks,
> brawling and then waking up to find the party assisting him to
> his feet in hopes of avoidng future legal issues for the party.
> Recast if needed.
>
> If this succeeds Arawn will ask the man to return to the tavern
> so Arawn can 'possibly meet him for a drink later', in case the
> party has need to question him further in the future.
> GM: Ack.
>
> From Arawn: [Re: Actions]
> OOC:
>
> *****
> ? - The 'scouting' comment was me posting for Arawn in
> response to Damon saying Fremea just flew off toward the ship.
> Arawn would have hoped/assumed scouting due to the risk Fremea
> would have taken saving them alone plus due to the fact that
> Enhanced Sapphire makes it impossible for her to get angry/hate
> for any reason.
>
> [RE: Mae's gm comments..]
> *****
> I'm guessing this is referring to the succubus innate power,
> Seduction, which is permanent as listed under their Creature
> description short of an Exorcism, Negate Curse, or Death. As
> written and short of adjustment, theirs is a particularly nasty
> one as ANY agreement to a request causes automatic success WITHOUT
> needing to roll for spell success, so particularly nasty - 'Could
> you hold that door open for me for just a moment?' - person
> politely holds the door open - BAM! - Auto permanent Seduction!!!
>
> *****
> A bit late now to worry about correcting things but Arawn
> wouldn't have asked redundant questions (as it seems Dorhak
> asked some... ust didn't know this at the time I posted as no
> one replied to the Q&A post) and could have saved some time (if
> it still matters), being able to tell the truth behind the
> sailor's replies to Dorhak's questions by casting Hidden Truth
> while Mae was enchanting the man:) *****
>
> IC:
> [Time: After Arawn's attempt to alter the sailor's memory, posted as
> a reply to the post for Mae, and after sending the sailor back
> to the tavern for now or otherwise being able to talk to the
> party out of earshot of the sailor]
>
> "Not good. Not good at all," he said, concern in his...
>
> OOC: If the party decides to move on foot Arawn will ride ahead
> with Corsaya to scout out a spot in case he feels pressure to
> ride back and Translocate the group closer to the ship,
> GM: Ack You said scouting? Hmmm. I checked using a keyword
> search for scout and didn't find that comment. So if it was
> a post I never got it. Unless it was during the mix of posts
> the update before last? Then I may have forgot it. I just
> assume since it was quoted in last update it covered posts
> in that update cycle. :) Since it was posted both spells
> I did the one first posted Fascinate. Never cast the other
> one. Doing both could lead to issues. But there is risk with
> taking pets for humans be it not so innocent but especially
> innocent humans. Gods would not favor much of that. Its the
> same as taking slaves. :) As to redundant questions I figured
> you would. Its a common interrogation tactic. To ask the
> same question over and over to check for slips and such. No
> good place to translocate. I mean its half a mile by time
> you run it'd be over. Plus its too busy a area to just jump
> randomly. Another issue is a large group of oddly dressed
> and geared - no dock looking folks - approach a ship that
> will bring attention. :)
>
>
> From Dorhak: [Re: Actions]
> Dorhak reaches out to stop Arawn from healing the sailor.
> "Hold on, now laddie. This is no wide eyed innocent. ...
>
> ooc: Dorhak may need something explained to him...?
> GM: Ack. Explained what? :) How a guy likes another dude?
> If hadn't had that beard he may have taken a liking to
> you as he did Damon/Kiet.
>
> From Arawn: [Re: Actions]
> Arawn continued to smile as he looked over to Dorhak,...
>
> "Oh, I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding. We'll get...
>
> OOC: If possible Arawn would say this in an obscure language
> the sailor would likely not know, (supernatural tongues or
> kameran, for example) if I, the player, could recall what
> languages both he and Dorhak shared.
> GM: Ack.
>
> From Pyan: [Re: Actions]
> Pyan starts to say, "If he deserves a lump you can give him a
> fresh one." But then decides against it. --- It is with..
> GM: Ack. There is never a dumb action/post so if you wanted
> to say it then say it. :)
>
> From Dorhak: [Re: Actions]
> A quick shift of his gaze, from Dorhak to Pyan,...
> GM: Ack.
>
> From Z'leyra: [Re: Actions]
> "C'mon, lets go!" Z'leyra states as she starts running
> towards the docks.
> GM: Ack.
>
> From Arawn: [Re: Actions]
> OOC: Unless asked to Translocate or do something else Arawn
> will go along with Z's suggestion.
>
> IC:
> Arawn took a moment to run his fingers through the...
> GM: Ack.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> [New Stuff]
>
> [Marqi Frisda 23rd, 1636TH; Sivas, Marentia]
> [Time: 10:26:25 am] - Sivas City Docks District
>
> Maelorna sighs, considering it's the second human she's
> attempted to make a pet. She isn't certain how they're
> supposed to act, especially given how Zin acted. "I wonder if
> it matters their orientation?" she muses as she looks at the
> sailor.
>
> "You don't like being tied up? It's quite fun in the bedroom
> I can assure you," she teases him, "However, sad to say, you
> have to die now, any last words?" she asks in mock sadness, as
> she starts to lean forward to kiss him and drain his life, the
> smile on her face is both hungry and predatory.
>
> Sailor leans back as she leans forward and shakes his head.
> "Is this torture? Have him do it then." He leans and nods
> toward Damon and grins slightly.
>
> Mae's inner voice laughs so loud it begins to annoy Mae making
> her wonder how to cut it out of her brain! It cackles and cackles.
>
> "Probably," came Arawn's wearied reply to the question of
> orientation.
>
> "And she's just joking," he said, feigning mirth as he looked
> the entranced sailor in the eye. He glanced at Mae to ward her
> off from killing the innocent sailor even as he pulled his wand
> free.
>
> "Now let me see to healing that bump," he said, taking
> advantage of his own otherworldly looks
>
> Dorhak reaches out to stop Arawn from healing the sailor.
> "Hold on, now laddie. This is no wide eyed innocent. He pulled
> a dagger on me and attacked. He deserves every lump received
> an then some!"
>
> Sailor looks up at the dwarf. "I was just told to keep
> you here. I have no idea why. I mean do you own the crew
> gold or something?"
>
> Arawn continued to smile as he looked over to Dorhak, giving
> him a conspirational wink that the dwarf, though not the sailor,
> could see.
>
> "Oh, I'm sure it's just a misunderstanding. We'll get him
> right as rain and he can wait at the tavern for us so we can
> have a chance to have a drink with him later."
>
> Continuing to hide his face from the sailor's view the Alfar
> leaned in to whisper so only Dorhak could hear, "Please trust
> me and play along. I'll explain after."
>
> Pyan starts to say, "If he deserves a lump you can give him a
> fresh one." But then decides against it. --- It is with books
> as with the fire in our hearths; we go to a neighbor to get the
> embers and light it when we return home, pass it on to others,
> and it belongs to everyone.
>
> Dorhak notices the hunter open his mouth and shut it and
> wonders if the hunter can actually speak. While Pyan never said
> a word his body language was pretty clear.
>
> A quick shift of his gaze, from Dorhak to Pyan, resulted in
> a brief, wry grin. Subterfuge did not seem to be either
> gentlemen's strong suit. But he hoped that familiarity would
> change that in time as they spent more time around the more
> subdued and subtle of the group.
>
> Arawn took a moment to run his fingers through the sailor's
> hair as he wrapped things up, allowing a few strands to collect
> in his palm in case it proved handy later. Helping the man to
> his feet he sent him off before mounting Corsaya to speed ahead
> of the others towards the docks.
>
> [Time: 10:27:04 am] - Sivas City Docks District
>
>
>
> [Time: 10:23:00 am] - Sivas City Docks District
> [Moments after Fremea casts sleep mist.]
>
> The man moves toward the stern where the fallen sailors are.
> They are alive, and appear to only be unconscious. It is
> puzzling for he can see nothing that could have caused this,
> and he backs slowly away a short distance and scans the ship
> and sky, but sees or smells nothing unusual - just the sailors.
> An armed guard runs to the stairwell & calls for help, and
> he backs away from the group, wishing he had his weapons
> with him. He was beginning to feel very uneasy.
>
> He didn't really like these "foreign" guards, or mercenaries
> whatever they were - and he had been unable to strike up any
> conversation with them since he had been hired. This was
> altogether too strange a ship. First, they were eager to hire
> him, for his mining skills & especially for his experience in
> working with dwarves. He greatly respected the dwarf miners he
> had known. Their magical skill in weaponcraft was legendary and
> he had felt very honored when they announced him as "Dwarf
> Friend." He had looked forward to working with such craftsmen
> again, but as the days went by, things didn't seem quite right.
> First of all, he had been warned away from entering the third &
> lowest deck. The captain had even wanted to refuse him the
> freedom of being on the upper deck, out in the open, but he
> flatly stated that he would not be confined below decks &
> they could just fire him if they insisted. Most of this
> conversation was in mixed Fomorian-Cerulean which the Captain
> knew, but most of the crew either didn't know these trading
> tongues, or they chose to pretend not to understand. He had
> found himself left pretty much to himself, although there were
> always some of the crew that seemed to keep him under an
> informal guard. He did not try to go the lowest deck & spent
> less and less time in his cabin on the 2nd deck, because the
> smell coming from below was starting to penetrate the very walls
> of the ship. If it weren't illegal, he's think they were
> carrying slaves, but maybe they had just put a weird spell on
> the wine, a valuable cargo according to the captain -
> and worth protecting.
>
> The fallen crew were starting to arouse now, and he moved
> forward to help a couple of them to their feet, when suddenly
> they were in a rain of arrows appearing from nowhere. The man
> took a quick look around and dove between two large crates
> nearby, wishing he had his shield and mace. He had been
> discouraged from carrying them & no one had disturbed his sea
> chest (provided by the ship for its few passengers), so he was
> unarmed & scared - and angry. He thought to himself "What in
> the name of the gods is happening? This is a civilized nation
> I'm supposed to be parked in!" He tried to spot the archer or
> archers but saw the very strange sight of a heavy rope rising
> to be wrapped around a spar. When he saw the Faerry suddenly
> appear above the ship, he was stunned. "A Faerry here? What in
> the three worlds is she doing? I thought they were friendly,
> if tricksters. Why is she on the warpath?" He ducked down out
> of sight as one of the sailors shoved his way into apple-man's
> hiding place.
>
> The next few minutes were a mix of shouting, screams and
> curses and a mad scramble that the man could only hear, as he
> kept his head down. Whatever had he gotten into? He didn't
> understand.
>
>
> ----------------
>
> [Time: 10:26:25 am] - Sivas City Docks District
>
> Fremea glances at the man now standing alone on the deck.
> She steps forwards and says, "Boo!" The man steps back a bit
> startled. Fremea then looks behind her to see the deck clear
> of moving targets. She then remembers to look up to ensure no
> one is in crows nest or rigging. But sees nothing. She glances
> to the back of the ship and sees bodies. The only good hiding
> spot left are the storage lockers. She pulls her dagger and
> the man steps back. She stalks the lockers to ensure no one else
> is alive hiding. She circles it once and then checks inside as
> she watches the lone man. But she finds no one hiding.
>
> Fremea notices to the east the sailors swimming away. The half
> dozen or so of them are almost across the water to the next ship
> berth about 80 feet away. Sailors on that ship - it looks like
> a courier or light merchant ship - are helping the sailors aboard
> their ship. She frowns that taking them out would be a bit of
> a problem. But it won't be long before someone gets help in terms
> of city guards over here. She twirls around to face the lone
> man and grins as he raises his hands.
>
> Fremea stares at the apple-man.
>
> Then it got quiet. His self-invited companion grabbed his
> shoulders & he looked up to see the Faerry watching them, her
> bow drawn. "There should be a better reason than this - this
> mess - to be dying." He started to slowly stand, when the
> terrified sailor behind him suddenly shoved him out from behind
> the boxes into the open. The Faerry fired upon the sailor & he
> fell. Then she turned to face the man - and smiled. He shuddered,
> in spite of his effort to stand straight and steady. Not
> knowing what else to do, he slowly spread out his arms to show
> he carried no weapon, and said, first in Fomorian, then Cerulean,
> "% %^#^^####, #%#$#### # %#$## #$@# #$$." Flashes of memory,
> his home, his foster parents, and Gallinda, passed through his
> mind & he began to get angry. He didn't want to die for no good
> reason. He gathered himself to try to be civilized and bowed
> his head slightly toward the Faerry (my, she was really pretty,
> but that frown was frightening) He spoke again. "%% ###
> %#$%#$$$$$ #$? $#$$ ## %%# #$$$?"
>
> Fremea does not understand a word the man is saying. But his
> body gesture and body language seem to indicate surrender or
> submission. Fremea waves her dagger in a way to say 'if you cross
> me you die' gesture.
>
> At the same time in the hold.
>
> Mournath stares at the angry dwarf mob.
>
> Life has certainly been strange lately. Shipwrecked months
> ago he ran into these generous persons who shared their food,
> fire, and companionship with me. Separated from then, I know
> not how, I've been making my way the best a sailor knows how.
> It seems my choice of boats and captains was a poor one.
> Slavers! No end of troubles there. Blockade-runners and
> smuggling are time-honored ways for a craft seaman to make a
> living, but slavery? Bah, best to pick up my spear now and
> help in what small way I can.
>
> "I'm not WITH these dog slavers" whispers Mournath "...at
> least not intentionally. I signed on as an able-bodied
> seaman, nothing more or less. It seemed strange to me how
> little of the ship I was allowed to walk, and when I had the
> chance I went exploring. I find the lot of you here --and
> slaves-- of which I knew nothing about. Give me half a moment
> to collect my spear and belongings and I'll do what I can to
> help you and this miserable lot to escape!"
>
> Unali cringes at the term 'dog slavers'. Did he just call the
> dwarves dogs? Oh dear. The dwarves seem to not understand but
> the tone of his voice seems to urge them forward.
>
> The blind girl speaks. "Please, don't hurt him. He's on our
> side... I think..." the blind female tries to plead with the
> now angry dwarves. She has to hold on to the wolf now to not
> fall over because she is still pretty weak from being given
> barely any food or water while she was prisoner, and attacking
> those sailors had understandably been not the best of ideas,
> but she was just so angry at her captors in that moment. She
> heard the man at the stairs too late. The only weapon that
> had been returned to her was her cane, so she didn't have
> anything to throw at him, and she knew no offensive spells,
> not that it mattered anyway, as her focus wasn't on her either.
>
> As she speaks she loosens her leather pants rope and it falls
> to the ground then jerks off her leather top. The dwarves stare
> at the almost naked girl as well as the man behind Unali.
>
> Unali senses the well designed distraction as the tension
> in the man's arm lessens a bit. She knows the man could simply
> jag forward a half inch and she's dead. But he is on her strong
> right side. She takes a deep breath and reacts as a coiled
> acrobatic snake. She raises her right arm toward the arm of the
> man using it as a brace and shield. She lifts with all her might
> even with less atrength from a awkward position and moves the
> arm away a couple inches. At the same time she twirls 45 degrees
> and raises her left dagger to use leverage to further uplift the
> man's own dagger.
>
> Unali finds the strength of her and the man oddly equal and
> there is a sudden impasse. Before the man can use his own leverage
> by shifting his body, Unali does a sweep with her right leg
> and forces the man to stumble backwards. Now free of immediate
> danger the man tries to regain his balance.
>
> That's when the wolf leaps toward the man. The man yelps
> in alarm and turns toward Unali who raises a dagger and tries
> to bash the man's head. The first dagger hits the man's head
> and he steps back but isn't knocked out. The man swipes his
> own dagger at Unali cutting across her chest doing 3 points of
> damage before she can deflect it.
>
> Mournath notices the blind girl seem to shift and elongate.
> Bones twist and harden. She grits her teeth as the human
> girl suddenly changes into a panther. At least that is what
> it looks like to Mournath.
>
> The man looks back just in time to see the wolf leap onto his
> back knocking him to the ground. Unali moves forward and taps
> his left temple and he falls unconscious.
>
> Then Unali is startled by a large animal leaping over the map
> and around the wolf. The long sleek animal that looks like
> a large cat of some kind heads the stairs running.
>
> Unali does a double take and then notices the blind girl is
> missing.
>
> On deck Fremea waves to apple-man to back away further to the
> back of the ship. Then she turns toward the stairs down to the
> lower decks. With the top deck clean time to see what Unali is
> up to down below.
>
> --------------
>
> [Time: 10:27:05 am] - Sivas City Docks District
>
> Back at the docks Arawn casts his forgetfulness spell
> as he unbinds the sailor. Arawn helps the man up and
> tells him to go to the tavern and wait for him to come
> get a drink.
>
> "Sure...but who are you guys?"
>
> "WE just found you in the alley have a drink on me we'll
> be there soon." Damon slaps the man's back.
>
> "Whatever you say.." The sailor exits the alley and
> heads west back the way the general store is. About
> half a mile away he tries to recall which tavern. The
> man never actually said which tavern. There are like 3-4
> in the area! The sailor may not be seen again if he
> just hits some random tavern! There is that cute bartender
> with the long scar that he could visit. But wait he was to
> do some shopping for the ship. Then again maybe he did and
> he can't recall. Drink first. Shop later! He heads off
> to the tavern in question and hopes the scar-face will be there.
>
> Back at the alley.
>
> "Not good. Not good at all," Arawn says, concern in his voice.
> "Even if there are slaves aboard it seems that at least some of
> the crew are unaware... innocent." He looked off in the
> direction of the docks, a troubled look on his face.
>
> "Let's hope Fremea hasn't started any trouble yet," he said
> before turning his attention back to the party. "I can risk a
> group Translocation to an out of the way spot on or near the
> dock if you wish. Otherwise, let's get a move on."
>
> "C'mon, lets go!" Z'leyra states as she starts running
> towards the docks.
>
> Z'leyra heads off. Followed by the others as Dorhak grumbles.
> This is a bit disorganized maybe some leadership is needed for
> this party!
>
> Arawn rides on the fay horse a bit ahead.
>
>
> [Time: 10:27:35 am] - Sivas City Docks District
>
> Fremea steps down the steps and notices a very dark
> figure moving quickly her way from the left. She pulls
> her dagger ready to pounce but the form seems to barrel her
> down. She is shoved against the small stairs wall as the black
> form leaps up the steps. Fremea looks up to see a cat? What
> the heck is a cat dong here? A very large cat indeed on the
> deck in the sunlight. Confused Fremea turns around to notice
> just in time another form rushing her way. This time she leaps
> to the right almost slamming to the deck below as it leaps past
> her. She rolls and recovers as she notices now a large
> animal that looks like a dog - no a wolf? Leap past up the stairs.
> That must be the wolf she saw down below.
>
> Fremea stands and dusts herself off as she moves toward
> the hall they came and finds the stairs down. She enters
> the hold as she spots Unali disarming a downed man. She
> notices two others on the ground in a bloody pulp. The dwarves
> are staring at her.
>
> Up above the apple man notices two large animals appear on
> deck. What the heck is going on. The man backs away toward
> the very back of the ship. Maybe he could leap off before he
> is eaten! Is that a cat and a wolf?
>
> [Time: 10:28:00 am] - Sivas City Docks District
>
> Arawn nears the obvious ship. He can't tell what is on
> the deck since the ship is slightly higher than the deck
> of the boardwalk itself. But he sees Corona flying over
> and circling. Then he notices a wolf and a large cat of
> some sort on deck. Standing in the saddle he notices a man
> at the very back of the ship leery of the animals.
>
> As the others jog-walk some can see the animals on the
> deck and Corona flying over. Arawn has dismounted and
> is trying to figure out best to enter the ship.
>
> Arawn sees the gangplank but then from his side vision he
> notices the ship down the boardwalk in another berth. There are
> sailors climbing up out of the water wet and dripping. They are
> pointing at the ship Arawn is near. Sailors on the small
> merchant ship are helping the swimmers aboard.
>
> Kiet shields his eyes and notices the cat like animal looks
> like a jaguar. On Lemasa he has seen a few before. Large
> cat agile beasts. But is that a wolf as well?
>
> Damon stops suddenly and points down the road. He spots
> a tall sailor in uniform rounding the corner about 200 feet from
> the ship. He notices the man which is now from the party about
> 500 feet away stop and stare at the ship. He seems to spot
> Arawn then suddenly turns around and rounds the corner to the
> side road going south. "That man looked like a officer."
>
> As the party moves closer, Arawn watches two sailors from
> the other ship who has rescued the swimmers moving down the
> street. If they are going after City Guards it will only be
> a matter of time now.
>
> Actions? Comments?
>
> Next Update....Wednesday?
>
> GM: Sorry for delay. Ran out of time Wednesday since started
> late. Would've been done by now. But oh well. So I did
> part of this Friday night so I hope it makes a bit of
> sense since I'm a bit brain dead tonight and its 11pm.
> But figure will get update out so folks can see it.
>
> Now party is more or less together. I can do a map if needed.
> But here are some word pictures.
>
> Ship in dock Berth facing South.
> Sea of Cholchara to left (North).
> Boardwalk runs 3-4 miles west to east.
>
> Second ship small merchant ship is about 80 feet
> in another berth to east (forward of party). That
> is 80 feet form main ship.
>
> Unali, Mounath, Fremea - Hold 3rd deck in ship.
> Dwarves, guards - Hold
> Top deck - Apple Man, Wolf, Jaguar, downed sailors/guards
>
> Arawn - Tiny dock adjacent to ship near gangplank to
> ship.
>
> Dorhak, Kiet, Pyan, Z'leyra, Damon - 500-4500 feet
> from ship west of ship.
>
> Damon's officer is some 200 feet east of second
> merchant/rescue ship. 300 feet or so from main
> ship. 750-800 feet from other party members on the
> boardwalk to west.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Next update may be a small normal update or a large
> 2 post update depending on something behind scenes.
>
> Boardwalk is full of folks at any one minute 30-50 in
> a given area. So far most are ignoring events on ship.
>
>
>
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