[PnP] 'Normal' humans

Scott Adams longshotgm at comcast.net
Thu Feb 1 23:00:12 CET 2018

Yes an impressive document.  I wlil use it for mass combat and such.
Still have a Elf vs Fort Affea (sp?) Climan battle one of these days to do.

At 06:20 AM 2/1/2018, you wrote:
>I think my “Dogs of War” submission had 
>something like that, with basic civilians, 
>militia, and various flavors of warriors.
>Burton Choinski
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>>On Feb 1, 2018, at 12:43 AM, Scott Adams 
>><<mailto:longshotgm at comcast.net>longshotgm at comcast.net> wrote:
>>This is what I was thinking before you proposed 
>>x2.  All npcs in any game are lower than 
>>pcs.  Just rule #4 of the rpg rule book. :)
>>For what I'd call uber npcs I use my pc 
>>generator.  So make them pc class.  But 95% of 
>>my ncps are book 4 quaity and use my npc 
>>generator.  This goes back to idea normal humans old age was 40.
>>We know some would make it twice that much so 
>>maybe those npcs would have x3 or x4 cons.
>>So I suppose one could add a 'genetic' 
>>aspect.  Using the same system as creature variatoin for npcs (more or less).
>>I do like your data analysis.  Good work.
>>The idea of these Enl npcs def makes them 
>>weak.  It would mean 90% of MUS ie npcs are wimps.
>>I mean they'd only be able to cast what 5-6 spells before tapped out.
>>Thus again for my MUS I use pc class.  For 
>>grunts and mostly anything else book 4.
>>At 08:34 PM 1/30/2018, you wrote:
>>>In Book 4, stats are given for 'normal' 
>>>humans.  The numbers listed for S, St, D & A 
>>>for men and women are 'avarage' 2d10 rolls of 
>>>11+/- the mods for their race.  These are then 
>>>given no multiplier other than 1 (as opposed 
>>>to a minimum 1.5 for characters).  Now, I have 
>>>no problem with the low multiplier...except 
>>>that it doesn't work with the Constitution and 
>>>still come up with a correct HPV if using 
>>>(S+St+C)/4 (RU).  The reason why I say that is 
>>>that for male humans, if the Constitution is 
>>>only multiplied by '1', then the man would 
>>>have a HPV=(14+11+11)/4=36/4=9.  Women would be HPV=(11+12+12)/4=35/4=9.
>>>Now, this makes normal humans pretty weak...but that's not all...
>>>Consider the EnL of both humans.  The book 
>>>calls for EnL=35 for both men and women, but 
>>>if the multipliers are all '1', then the male 
>>>would have an EnL of only 22, and the woman only 25.
>>>So...in order to make the numbers make sense, 
>>>I would propose that the multiplier for the 
>>>Constitution of normal humans be changed to '2'.  What would this do?
>>>Male humans would have a HPV of 12 instead of 10, and an EnL of 33.
>>>Female humans would have a HPV of 12, and an EnL of 37.
>>>This way it keeps the calcs the same, but 
>>>doesn't make them much different than they are in Book 4.
>>>My 2BB.
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