[PnP] Shield Hits

William Wilson dwarf74 at gmail.com
Wed May 1 14:15:00 CEST 2013


For what it's worth, I'd use Paul's house rules - kinda - if I were able to
run it.  SB x WSB.  Also halving the shield's AV on shield hits.  I think
that'd be enough.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Paul L. Ming <pming at northwestel.net> wrote:

> Hiya.
>
>   I wrote my own rules for 2-handed weaponers (revised a bit to not
> include polearms, since it got put up on the P&P site anyway). They
> basicallly give the two-hander a chance to knock down/back or otherwise
> "out of position" when the attacker gets a Severe or Deadly hit.
>
>   That said, even without these rules, the P&P system does handle it ok,
> IMHO. First, two-handed weapons tend to go before other melee weapons (as
> show on Table 2.3: Attack Priority Table) other than those with "reach"
> (polearms, spears, staff)...but those with light swords, scimitars,
> hammers, maces, etc....go after the guy with the big weapon.
>
>   One option I've played with for simplicity, it using the WSB as a
> multiplier to SB. In other words, if someone with SB +3 uses a Great Sword
> (WSB +2), they actually do +6 damage (2 x 3). Another one was to double the
> SB of a user when using two hands...after all , if you have SB +3 and use a
> club, you get +3, but if you use both hands...you still get +3, normally.
> With the doubleing, you are basically getting your SB for each 'hand'...so
> if you had SB+3, it counts as +6 when using a weapon that can take
> advantage of using two hands (e.g., Great Swrod). In that case, a Great
> Sword would do +8 damage on a normal hit (2 + (3 x 2)).
>
>   Anyway, that's my 2¢ on the matter. :)
>
> Paul L. Ming
>
>  At 10:49 PM 4/30/2013, Julian Draven wrote:
>>
>>> Shields are so critical in melee combat to avoid damage from shield
>>> hits, that it seems patently stupid to ever choose a two-handed weapon or
>>> dual weapons.
>>>
>>> Were rules ever written to make the non-shield combatant more in line?
>>>
>>> Take, Conan, for example.  Clearly not a shield user, but in P&P he
>>> would have a serious survival handicap.
>>>
>>
>
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