[pnpgm] Game Update #-18 - File #14 - Treasure choices

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   HT Aliaver/Player    DS    Character Name    Type    Status/Notes  Sex
   -- -----------------------------------------------------------------
   R1.John Haight.......HY..Arawn.............Druid  .Normal/Alfar .. Ma
   --.Tobie Bonahoom....YY..Fremea............Sidh....Normal/Faerry.. Fe
   R3.Mark Murtha.......HN..Kell..............Trader..Normal/Human....Ma
   R1.David Sanders.....HN..Kiet.Sunan........Acrobat Normal/Human  ..Ma
   W4.Wout Broere.......YY..Unali.............Ninja...Normal/Human  ..Fe
   R4.Alex Koponen......YY..Z'leyra...........Healer..Normal/Human  ..Fe
   -- Npc...............YY..Etain.............Teacher.Normal/Elf......Ma
      Animals: Corona [Eagle] Z'leyra, Squirt (Ferret) Kell

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      Game Update #-18in sequence (file #14)

      Admin Notes: None.

        From Z'leyra: [Re: Actions]
          Z'leyra offers to house any of the party in her manor ...

          Z'leyra offers her services as a Master Jeweler and enhancer for
          the cutting, mounting and enhancing of any of the gems and
          jewelry. The less valuable gems should be used for apprentice and
          journeymen jewelers to practice on. She does not plan to keep any
          of the non- enhancable gems or jewelry for herself, but will take
          her share of the value after they have been made into jewelry and
          sold. She is willing to teach other party members the finer points
          of the skill. [Note that she does have a Luck item that brings her
          effective skill as Jeweler well over Master level. She is also
          VERY good at enhancing.]

          She does have spare jeweler tools and can easily make more as
          a blacksmith and master weaponsmith/armorer. [Actually she
          would give away her own set after making a new set for herself
          and likely enchanting them.]

          While she REALLY wants the meteorite she is unconcerned about
          who gets the other Natural Magic Items (NMI). If no one snags
          them she will take them for her own. Note that she may be the
          only person in the party to be able to banish Spiritual Edimmu
          (Spectres) as they are immune to Sidh and Wizard magic...as such
          she may be the best person to get the Emerald NMI.
        GM: Ack.  Sadly you have enhanced tons of things.  I am going to need
            to come up with some rules on that.  Technically you're 
            in but we need to set your Core Enhancent list of 6 items. The
            anything else will have to be done separately.    As to making
            Jewelry then taking your share.  Once the item is given it is
            up to that person to give that up.  Since you need to use
            virgin material it is up to each person to enhance and cut
            the items for the power.  So once selected it is gone and up
            to the player to do what he wants. I need you guys to just
            claim things not "I may get this if that or maybe I might
            do this if I can do that.." It is hard to track that stuff.
            So either pick or choose or just let me know the final results.

        From Kiet: [Re: Actions]
          From Kiet, "Since the enhanceable stones are without magic, ...
        GM: Ack.

        From Arawn: [Re: Actions]
          Gem: Medium, flawless, average clarity, Dark Ruby, 80.0 SC

          It wasn't exactly settled.

          Arawn is NOT claiming the gem as his own. He wants to use his
          Jeweler skill on it, turning the Gem into a Jewel and then
          mounting it so as to turn it into Jewelry. Once this is done
          he'll return it to the party and they can sell it or do whatever
          they wish with it.

          If anyone is really stressed over this Arawn will pay 80 SC,
          the cost of the gem, to the party if he should botch the roll
          and ruin the Gem.

          Arawn is just looking to increase the value of the stone for
          the party while working on his skill, which is actually very
          high. The reason he's interested in working on this stone over
          lesser stones is due to the fact that it will be worth far more
          exponentially. This is to benefit the party. Arawn isn't
          concerned with money. Ultimately, if trying to decide what to
          do with the Dark Ruby is causing headaches for anyone I'll just
          leave it alone. Arawn can purchase stones to work on at anytime -
          working on the Dark Ruby was really to benefit others in the

          Enhanceable Gems:

          Not sure how the party wants to deal with splitting these
          but Arawn's interest is in either the Ruby or the Tourmaline.
          As to Kiet's suggestion on how to handle this, I'm fine with
        GM: Ack. That ruby is in the master list.  It is not magical.
            But I'll add it to the bottom.  Cutting the gem can actually
            lower the value.  Most dealers want basic raw gems.  If you
            make it into a nice ring that limits the buyer to only those
            who want a ring.  But if its a gem a dealer can do many things
            to it.  If you want to practice jeweler skill I suggest
            using worthless items. Cut and fine tune those.  But just
            a suggestion.  If you did botch the roll and that 80 SC gem
            is cut in half (never know how a sneeze and your strength
            can just shatter it) it might be then worth 8 SC at best.
            It has been done in the early '90s with a player and a nice
            diamond. If I recall it was worth 115 SC and by time it was
            sold it was only worth 22 SC.  This is not a you-should-not-do-it
            but a warning.  Do what you guys want.

        From Arawn: [Re: Actions]
          Emerald/Banishing Edimmu: I'm good with Z'leyra having the
          Emerald and/or Meteorite (assuming Kiet passes on it).

          Ruby: Along Z's line of thinking, Negate Poison is a priest
          spell so I think Arawn may be the only one capable of easily
          neutralizing poison and I was thinking it might be a good idea
          to keep him from being poisoned himself (as Ruby raises poison
          resistance). Just a suggestion but I'm honestly cool with
          whatever is easiest in regards to assigning these items.

          Z'leyra Enhancing the gems: I'm cool with Z'leyra doing this.
          However, if Arawn ends up with an enhanceable gem other than
          the Ruby or Tourmaline he'll do so himself.
        GM: Ack.  So you don't want to work on ruby then?    Hey did you
            ever send in comment on update width?  If you can add to it
            I can figure out what I need to do.  Wout must be super busy
            and not responding  But I have enough if you add your info
            see bottom of update.

        From Kiet: [Re: Actions]
          *IF* you all have the special knowledge to enhance the gems...

          Kiet offers to simply flip a coin for the meteorite.  It's
          very important to one of Kiet's long term goals.  It'll be the
          easiest way to decide it.
        GM: Ack. Yep.  I need to go through and figure out original rites
            and learned rites for folks mainly 3 people.  Should be done
            this weekend I hope.  At least you got your list already. :)

        From Fremea: [Re: Actions]
          I would say we all pick one, then we pick another one, that
          will leave 2 more, which we can have enhancement done on them
          and then either just store them for now or sell them for whatever
          we can (or used to help others that come into our party if need
          be). Most of the previous claims were for using during the
          adventure (since we talked about getting them enhanced on the
          way to the capital).

          If on the first pick, there is two or more people that want the
          same thing, then just a simple roll (GM) and who ever is higher
          gets it and then the other person picks again.

          We have all contributed to the adventure and though we all have
          gotten lots of loot and gold, this seems the most fair to me. As
          for the enhancing, it will be up to each person on who does it,
          except for the last, which Z can take care of.

          Only one pick right now.
          So, for Fremea her first pick would be the sapphire.

          For the rest, if anyone wants to make jewelry with some of it
          during IBT, then get it sold off that is fine (this way we are
          not carrying stuff during adventures). Otherwise, just sell off
          all the non enhanceable gems.

          Is this ok with everyone else?
        GM: Ack.  A good simple plan to me!

        From Z'leyra: [Re: Actions]
          Z'leyra consents to 'flipping a coin' for who gets the
          meteorite. Presuming she wins she will use her first pick to
          get the meteorite, if she loses she will ask for the emerald.
        GM: Ack.

        From Kiet: [Re: Actions]
          Kiet will stick with 1st choice being Meteorite, if that fails,
          then Sapphire, then Diamond, Emerald, and finally Ruby.  If
          any of the turquoise stones remain unclaimed, Kiet will offer
          to buy them from the group.  They are useful, but not enough so
          to make as a choice.
        GM: Ack.

      [New Stuff]

          [Octagi 5th, 1634TH]
          [Sivas, Marentia]

          [Time: 8:40:11 pm - Sivas Marentia]

            Z'leyra offers to house any of the party in her manor if
          they desire. As her manor requires a fair bit of money she
          rarely gives away much of her wealth. She also saves money for
          when she will set up a school for healing.

            Kiet hears folks talking about the gems and speaks up.

            Kiet, "Since the enhanceable stones are without magic, we
          could just determine their raw value and allow each of us to buy
          what we want.  Should more than one person want an item, the
          item can be auctioned off between the people that want it, with
          the minimum bid be the determined value.  Whatever amount is
          gained by the purchases is divided into equal shares (including
          to the winners of the auctions... otherwise they get no benefit
          from it being treasure for the party). To make things fair, we
          could identify who has the least money to spend on these things
          and that would be the limit for everyone, for ALL purchases...
          otherwise a rich old-timer could outbid us all... hardly fair."

            "Etain, as the neutral party, could be the auctioneer."

            Etain shrugs and nods.  All this talk of treasure seems weird
          on top of a library.  The rush for judgement.  But then again
          now one can see who is truly in it for the good and who is in
          it for the gold.

            Kiet continues, "If you happen to know the special rites
          knowledge to enhance them, and you don't need to advertise it,
          then you have a real prize.  If not, you have incentive to find
          out what the rites are."

            The discussion falls into a excited discourse on how best
          to divide the spoils of the past week.  Fremea realizes that
          in both loot bundles it is blood money on the back of slavers
          and drug addicts.  It only some could be given to all those
          lost souls who died or were enslaved by others.  Maybe
          Roerick will find all those dealt with in the last few years.

          Actions?  Comments?

          Next update...Monday????..who knows...

'        GM: I have been working. I know to the new players it is boring
              to wait.  For that I'm sorry.  But I have been working
              on stuff almost every day.  For the last 3 days I've looked
              into map makers.  Since some have issue with the text
              maps I use.  There are many well made softwares but the
              time to design and update is just too much more than I 
can devote.
              A typical combat update takes me 3-5 hours at least.  Since
              I have no artistic talent at all doing a simple line on
              a graphics program may take me a lot of time.  Doing much
              more complex maps would be more difficult.  I am going to
              look at a couple more but sadly nothing has suited me.
              If Mapcad was still around I will be looking into that.
              On a side note I think Maptool from rpgnet looks like what
              Richard did for the PL maps.  It looks almost the same style
              of graphics.

              Ok.  I have files for Tobie, Alex and Arawn to decide on what
              Enhancement rites you choose.  Stay tuned for that.

              Kiet has sent in his IBT so first in line.  I will probably
              work on it Monday-Wednesday.  Just a reminder if you are
              to coordinate some action with another player do so on a
              set date and share that date in the IBT.

              So far no major dissent on the Enhancement rule changes.
              I'm trying to improve and make things more balance every

          GM: New players:  Sorry the IBT may take time but we are not
              as many players so it may go fast.  But by now you are
              getting a feel for the game and style of posting.  I may
              not have documented this but folks will do IC or In Character
              posts like above with dialogue.  Actually speaking is better
              than saying - I go ask guard for that info.  Role playing is
              always good but at times you may be too busy.  So a short form
              is okay.  Other times you may want to do OOC or Out of Character.
              This is you as player speaking not character.  I'm good enough
              to know the difference but you don't have to say IC/OOC if
              you don't want.  I can figure it out.  Just as long as its
              clear.  Saying - I think that is wise could mean you as player
              agrees or you as character.  So as long as it is clear who
              is saying then its fine.  you will see a lot of times in
              the updates what is Introspection.  Character inner thoughts
              or mindset.  This is a narrative to describe how folks think
              or reason.  I've gotten used to most folks I can do that with
              most folks.  For you new guys I won't do much since I don't
              know them as well.  But you are free to do so.  Like the
              above with Etain's thought on treasure.  As a teacher he
              is not one for riches but for education.  Just some tips.

          GM: My schedule -

              * Clean this old computer off of pnp and move to new computer
              * Start on IBT time events
              * Start working on Adventure Outline

          GM: IBT Time

                Octagi 5          Back to Marentia night time
                Octagi 6-31       IBT Time
                Novehas 1-14      IBT Time
                Novehas 15        Adventure Hook/Starts

                This is 40 days between adventures.  Keep in mind
                this is November so it will be cold.    Please
                do NOT start IBT until you get final sheets sent.

          GM: IBT Process

                 Player        IBT Sent in       IBT Processed
               Kiet                 Yes          First in line
               Zabyra               Yes               Done

          GM: Width of posts:
              Just taking notes on what folks can see (ie how many
              characters can one see on their reading devices - crt,
              ipad, email, browser.)  So I can figure out a average
              width for future posts rather than 80 columns.

                Player          Width of device     Type of device
              Fremea                  195                Screen
              Kiet                     68                Ipad
              Zabyra                  120                Email
              Z'leyra                 186                Email

              New players are welcome to let me know this data as well.
              Here is a typical snippet for testing.


              How many can you see on your device?

          GM: Old Treasure

                  Item               Claimed by
                Meteorite  [1]    Z'leyra (1)
                Ruby       [2]    Arawn [2], Kiet (5)
                Diamond    [1]    Fremea, Kiet (3)
                Turquoise  [2]    Kiet (6)
                Emerald    [1]    Kiet (4)
                Sapphire   [1]    Fremea (1), Kiet (2)
                Tourmaline [1]    Kiet, Arawn [1st]
                Toadstone  [1]    Unali

                Dark Ruby - Non-Magical for Arawn to work on - Arawn

               * Gems
                 Ruby            -   40
                 Diamond         -   27
                 Turquoise       -   23
                 Emeralds        -   38
                 Sapphires       -   16
                 Tourmaline      -   33
                 Onyx            -    2
                 Toadstone       -   10

           I flipped a coin and Z'leyra wins the Meteorite (sorry Kiet).
           So based on this we have...

             *  Meteorite  [1]    Z'leyra (1)
                Ruby       [2]    Arawn [2], Kiet (5)
                Diamond    [1]    Fremea, Kiet (3)
              * Turquoise  [2]    Kiet (6)
              * Emerald    [1]    Kiet (4)
                Sapphire   [1]    Fremea (1), Kiet (2)
                Tourmaline [1]    Kiet, Arawn [1st]
              * Toadstone  [1]    Unali

            * Denote no conflicts.
            # denotes choice in order.

            So The Ruby, Diamond, Sapphire and Tourmaline are in conflict.

            If I were to suggest I'd do it as..
                    - First choice -
                Toadstone  [1]    Unali
                Meteorite  [1]    Z'leyra (1)
                Diamond    [1]    Fremea
                Tourmaline [1]    Arawn [1st]
                Emerald    [1]    Kiet (4)

                       - Second Choice? -
                Ruby       [2]    Arawn [2], Kiet (5)
                Sapphire   [1]    Fremea
              * Turquoise  [2]    Kiet (6)

            So If we did this
              Fremea - Diamond, Sapphire
              Unali  - Toadstone
              Z'leyra- Meteroite
              Kiet   - Emerald

              Leaves 5 left over so each person can take 1 more with
              1 left over.  So is this good or want to redo?  What
              would be your second choices?

              The above does NOT have to be done.  Optional.


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