Its not that Will doubts his ability to injure or even kill a dragon if played well but for him at least he has no doubt that if he were to go up and kick a dragon in the shin he would shortly discover what its like to be reincarnated as dragon dung.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Schnockel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dasandersx@comcast.net">dasandersx@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Raban...you could just fly...<br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: "J Hooten" <<a href="mailto:jhooten@binary.net" target="_blank">jhooten@binary.net</a>><br>
To: "PBEM List" <<a href="mailto:pnpgm@abroere.xs4all.nl" target="_blank">pnpgm@abroere.xs4all.nl</a>><br>Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:21 PM<br>Subject: Re: [pnpgm] Game Update #12 - File #140 - Ship Boredom ends-OOCUnit conversion
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">OOC:<br>Most info on the people in this group is unknown but I have determined<br>with what little I have seen that 2 dragons is likely a very minor<br>
encounter.<br>The only real risk is to the ship as it could be hard to fix in route<br>even with magic.<br><br>Raban who is a barely above starting level character, has a fair chance<br>to take down a dragon by himself.<br>
Unlike the equivalent level character in the other game, Romidar, who<br>thinks they are easy.<br>In Raban's case, many bow shots could do serious damage if he has time<br>for them.<br>Raban is a bow expert, his skill has more than 1 digit!<br>
He has the basics of multiarrow, so gains multiple possible hits per shot<br>If he had a heavy bow it would be quite nasty!<br>His Hand to Hand skill is even higher<br>There are many others with skill at least that good in weapons.<br>
The mages have spells at higher Els than the dragon does and boost<br>enough that they are not afraid to try magic on one<br>Likely they could more easily destroy the ship in one shot than the<br>dragons could<br><br>But in PnP that is no guarantee that someone wont get badly hurt or killed.<br>
<br>Lets put things in perspective, Raban is likely as strong as the Dragons<br>and he is not as strong as he could be.<br>Raban may have as many hit points as the Dragons but more likely 50-75%<br>OCV - DCV is comparable, since Raban has 2 digits in both<br>
Without special attacks it could be a fair fight, so luck will dominate.<br>Unfortunately, Raban does not have his magic weapon to shift the odds<br>more his way.<br><br>Bows in PnP are nasty!<br>They tend to hit fairly well based mostly on range, so a few archers can<br>
dish out some serious damage<br>Problem is Dragons armor versus normal bow WSB means you need serious<br>hits or better to do much<br>Raban's WSB+2 bow has little chance to pierce armor on a regular hit,<br>but will ALWAYS do damage on serious since it adds half skill<br>
He will likely do more than 20 on deadly hits<br>With multiarrow his chance of getting those is not bad<br>at 300' he has about 16% chance of serious hits and 7% deadly<br>at 150' he has about 21% chance of serious hits and 11% deadly<br>
at 70' he has about 27% chance of serious hits and 14% deadly<br>at 30' he has about 29% chance of serious hits and 15% deadly<br>So enough shots will do some damage considering it only takes 4 deadlies<br>to kill it, maybe less<br>
<br>OOPS this may depend on effects related to ship combat rules!!!<br>Looks like he looses 5% with Bow?<br>Worse in Hand to Hand?<br><br>But in any case it still shows the point, we have enough archers to do<br>serious damages if they do not reach us quickly.<br>
We have enough mages that it could be over in a couple phases<br>We have enough skilled fighters that they can hurt it close up<br>Not having our magical gear is what shifts some things more in the<br>dragons favor<br><br>
No the real issue is them diving and coming up under the ship to stave<br>in the hull and knock people into the water<br>Then we have problems!<br>Its much harder to fight in the water.<br>Transmute could patch the ship, if its done quickly enough, otherwise<br>
its a major problem<br><br>I suppose Raban could grab one of the Dragons, rip a hole into its side<br>and keep going till its dead.<br>It is kind of hard to stop someone when they are that close in hard to<br>reach spots<br>
Monsters need to be careful who they swallow too, always chew first! LOL<br>Just how long can someone hold their breath? ok found it only about 27<br>phases for Raban, should be long enough ;)<br>Wow he can still triple his swim skill, he may be getting some practice!<br>
<br>So its a little early to be worried...much... course these could be much<br>much worse than my guestimates, especially if they were sent.<br>Or maybe the mages will just take over their minds and hitch them up to<br>pull the ship ;)<br>
<br><br><br>John Stowman wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">If JHH is right on his facts regarding sprinting and there base move<br>is 16 (I still haven't looked up there stats yet) then they could<br>
sprint at MR 64 for a PMR of 16 to our 12. If they do decide to just<br>surface under the ship, sink it and then just snack on us at there<br>leisure do we have to put in dibs on who stands next to Chion or can<br>we all huddle around him?<br>
<br>On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:30 PM, kzinti maouse<br><<a href="mailto:kzinti_maouse@yahoo.com" target="_blank">kzinti_maouse@yahoo.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kzinti_maouse@yahoo.com" target="_blank">kzinti_maouse@yahoo.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br><br> Well, if they move say 2 PMR faster than us... and we are 30<br> "squares ahead" then we have 15 rounds to pincushion them to<br> death. Of course, normal arrows will bounce off an AV of 6. So we<br>
will need crits (rolling 2d10 and adding our ranged skill). So<br> that means we will need a bunch of criticals to even start hurting<br> them. But you know. MMMM... Lunch is server. (the worse thing they<br> can do is just go under water (full cover) and sink the ship. In<br>
which case its Chion to the rescue (again). I wonder who will be<br> standing next to him shooting the dragons :)<br><br><br></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>pnpgm mailing list<br>
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