<h2><span>History</span></h2>
<p>The first records of junks can be found in references dating to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Dynasty" title="Han Dynasty" target="_blank">Han Dynasty</a> (220 BC-200 AD).</p>
<p><a name="12171537ddf263b5_121714d9b606705c_1217144efea260cf_121713700cb11036_1217133fd61ed981_2nd_century_junks_.28Han_Dynasty.29"></a></p>
<h3><span>[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Junk_%28ship%29&action=edit&section=9" title="Edit section: 2nd century junks (Han Dynasty)" target="_blank">edit</a>]</span> <span>2nd century junks (Han Dynasty)</span></h3>






<p>The 3rd century book "<i>Strange Things of the South</i>" («n¦{²§ª«§Ó) by
Wan Chen (¸U¾_) describes junks capable of carrying 700 people together
with 260 tons of cargo ("more than 10,000 "±Ø"). He explains the ship's
design as follows:</p>
<blockquote>
<div>
<p>The four sails do not face directly forward, but are set obliquely,
and so arranged that they can all be fixed in the same direction, to
receive the wind and to spill it. Those sails which are behind the most
windward one receiving the pressure of the wind, throw it from one to
the other, so that they all profit from its force. If it is violent,
(the sailors) diminish or augment the surface of the sails according to
the conditions. This oblique rig, which permits the sails to receive
from one another the breath of the wind, obviates the anxiety attendant
upon having high masts. Thus these ships sail without avoiding strong
winds and dashing waves, by the aid of which they can make great speed</p>
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<div>—<cite>Wa Chen, <sup><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_%28ship%29#cite_note-6" title="" target="_blank"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a></sup></cite></div>
</blockquote>
<p>A 260 AD book by Kang Tai (±d®õ) also described ships with seven masts, traveling as far as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria" title="Syria" target="_blank">Syria</a>.</p>
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<div style="width: 182px;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Qingming_Festival_Detail_6.jpg" title="Detail of a ship on Along the River During Qingming Festival, by Zhang Zeduan (1085–1145)." target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Qingming_Festival_Detail_6.jpg/180px-Qingming_Festival_Detail_6.jpg" border="0" width="180" height="56"></a>
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Detail of a ship on <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Along_the_River_During_Qingming_Festival" title="Along the River During Qingming Festival" target="_blank">Along the River During Qingming Festival</a></i>, by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Zeduan" title="Zhang Zeduan" target="_blank">Zhang Zeduan</a> (1085–1145).</div>






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<p><a name="12171537ddf263b5_121714d9b606705c_1217144efea260cf_121713700cb11036_1217133fd61ed981_10th-13th_century_junks_.28Song_Dynasty.29"></a></p>
<h3><span>[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Junk_%28ship%29&action=edit&section=10" title="Edit section: 10th-13th century junks (Song Dynasty)" target="_blank">edit</a>]</span> <span>10th-13th century junks (Song Dynasty)</span></h3>






<p>The great trading dynasty of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_Dynasty" title="Song Dynasty" target="_blank">Song</a>
employed junks extensively. The naval strength of the Song, both
mercantile and military, became the backbone of the naval power of the
following Yuan dynasty. In particular the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_of_Japan" title="Mongol invasions of Japan" target="_blank">Mongol invasions of Japan</a> (1274-1284), as well as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Java" title="Mongol invasion of Java" target="_blank">Mongol invasion of Java</a>
essentially relied on recently acquired Song naval capabilities. The
ship to the wright's dimensions are 360 feet (110 m) by 110 feet (34 m)
by 120 feet (37 m)</p><p><br>
                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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                                                                                                                                                <h4><font color="#4682b4">Facts About<br>
                                                                                                                                                                The <i>Maryland Dove</i></font></h4>
                                                                                                                                                <p><b>Captain:</b>   Will Gates<br>
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                                                                                                                                                <p><b>Physical Dimensions:<br>
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                                                                                                                                                <ul><li>Length Overall: 76 feet.
                                                                                                                                                        </li><li>Length on Deck: 56 feet.
                                                                                                                                                        </li><li>Length at Waterline: 51 feet.
                                                                                                                                                        </li><li>Beam: Overall 17 feet.
                                                                                                                                                        </li><li>Draft: 7 feet.
                                                                                                                                                        </li><li>Displacement: 42 tons.
                                                                                                                                                        </li><li>Height of Main Mast: 64 feet.
                                                                                                                                                        </li><li>Sail Area (approximate): 1,965 sq. ft.
                                                                                                                                                        </li></ul></td></tr></tbody></table><p>For comparison the first ship that I referenced earlier (the Dove) and again above which had masts large enough to put people in the top of is less than a 10th of the size of the several of the Roman and Chinese ships in fact the 2nd century junks above could have carried 6 of these as cargo.  More importantly the Blue Moon is  72 feet long and can carry  80 tons of cargo so it is also substantially larger than the Dove.<br>



</p><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Alex Koponen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:akoponen@mosquitonet.com" target="_blank">akoponen@mosquitonet.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">My understanding of the ships of the Perilous Lands is that they are late bronze age/early iron age designs, with the trireme being the latest greatest design. Basically these designs are too small to put men up top to shoot from bows. Some designs might have protected areas on the bow and stern to give some cover for the fighting men. It takes a large ship to need masts thick enough to mount a crows nest big enough to be a shooting platform. Frankly I don't think the technology of the Perilous Lands is to that point.<br>






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      Alex<br>
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