[pnpgm] Game Update #12 - File #140 - Ship Boredom ends-OOCUnit conversion

Murtha, Mark D (N-Resources) mark.d.murtha at ulalaunch.com
Tue Jun 2 16:20:27 CEST 2009


Kell is definitely a starting character, and no, he can't stop one of these dragons, let alone stop two of them.  On land he'd have a chance, but at sea he's going to be almost useless.

With Kell this is partly by design, partly because he's new, and partly because he has other strengths.

Raban is definitely not a "normal" person by any stretch of the imagination.  He's 8' tall and has a huge strength that no one else does, even in this group.  Which I like since it'll help save the ship and kill those pesky dragons.  :)


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> OOCUnit conversion
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> OOC:
> PnP Dragons are fairly easy to kill
> They default to a major magical attack, but just that one even though
> they could have much more.
> They are tough due to high NAV and decent HP but not beyond many
> character design capabilities.
> 
> A starting human can be stronger than a dragon without any supernatural
> aids
> A starting human can match the armor
> A good weapon will do more damage that a dragons claws
> That leaves Breath weapons and flight as the big issues
> So a hack and chop fighter can loose due to mobility!
> Add Archery to solve that.
> So Bows take away part of the flight advantage, if it flys shoot it as
> it cant fight back so well that way.
> 
> Breath is major problem for a fighter and is why a lone fighter is a
> poor match
> He would need protection from fire or magic in general or be able to
> take a lot of damage
> Or use tricks to misdirect things
> Or depend on ambushing etc
> Not all that great of a chance
> But if the fighter got some means to move very fast, he can out run the
> breaths and negate that.
> There are many solutions that can work
> 
> So for Raban, if the dragon has some magical attack, or poison etc it
> tips the odds quite a lot.
> Of course If Raban had magic equipment that can offset it back etc
> 
> Mages are the best antidragon design as spells can take care of defense
> as well as attacks
> A proper mage will have a good MDV which can be boosted even higher
> without a lot of effort
> As such it could negate the breath advantage
> Attack spells negate the flight, though a Dragon has a good MDV as well
> Staffs negate some of that MDV as do Luck and Purification and other
> similar boosts
> So with a little effort the mage can negate the Dragons major issues
> with fighters
> Then it only takes a few spells that work to take it out
> Which means the Dragon needs to pounce on the mage for melee to have
> much of a chance or fly away
> 
> Now a 'Smart' Dragon changes all that too
> Some dragons decided to learn spells and as such are much harder to
> predict what they can do
> It could have counters to the Mages spells and tip the balance back to
> Dragon.
> 
> PnP Dragons are 'easy' only because normal rules for them run them as
> dumb dragons not much more than animals
> But that is true of most games monsters, rarely are they allowed to play
> smart.
> PnP Mountain Giants could scare everyone with their weapons and armor,
> if they made things for other giants it would be hard to stop them.
> Think about giants in AV10+ plate armor or similar, with WSB+6 or more
> weapons
> 
> So Romidar is a special case, he is likely one of the most powerful
> antidragon combinations out there.
> He is a Faerry Mage that Fights with weapons and has El9 innate Elfshot
> So you get an invisible flying archer that drops a 100hp monster if the
> arrow scratches it
> If it has more than 100HP it takes an additional +18HP damage above the
> basic damage from the ElfShot instead
> And will it have less than 100HP on the next hit and thus drop?
> And Elfshot gives -El to hit making the chance of serious damage higher
> Note: This was the result of rolling random faerry innate and then
> making the character match it, I normally considered elfshot useless but
> it can be nasty.
> Note: No supernatural stats or abilities on this character, just the
> basic faerry with good mage stats.
> Faerries are excellent mages but tend to squish easily.
> It is fairly easy to make a faerry MDV high enough that most spells
> bounce off.
> Normally I play a faerry mage as a spell sniper not archer, but
> invisibility applies quite well in either case.
> Yes, many consider faerries broken as a race for this reason!
> But a single normal weapon hit can kill them in most cases, far easier
> than any other race.
> As such a smart opponent can guarantee winning against them
> 
> PnP is a system that has counters for most anything if you are smart
> enough to work it out.
> Also Starting characters are not the weaklings of most games
> You have the choice to be more of a generalist with lots of growth or a
> specialist with less
> But you advance by learning what you wish too
> You do not become much tougher just more skilled, so a lucky beginner
> can take out a high level opponent
> But mages can grow the fastest which is a balance problem
> 
> So give me the specs on a monster and I can likely show you a starting
> character build that can handle it
> or what it would take which may be far less than people expect.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chris & Karen Wells wrote:
> > "Raban who is a barely above starting level character, has a fair
> > chance to take down a dragon by himself.
> > Unlike the equivalent level character in the other game, Romidar, who
> > thinks they are easy."
> >
> > Hmmm...something about that seems just wrong.  Any roleplaying game
> > where a starting level character can take down a dragon single-handed
> > is broken IMO.  :-)
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