<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-size: 13px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: arial, sans-serif;"><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style><div style="font-size: 13px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Well, for my part, when you use examples for a game I'm less than familiar with and t hat isn't what this list is designed for, I don't really follow it, and I wonder why it's here.<div><br></div><div>But that's just me. I'm on this list for Powers and Perils matters, not Pathfinder matters, and I really don't are what issues Piazo has with their books and rule sets. <br><br>I wouldn't mind seeing someone post something P&P to the P&P list, however. It's been awhile.<br><br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Hsingai Altaica <draltaica@yahoo.com>
<br>Sent: Jul 9, 2019 10:50 AM
<br>To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List <pnp@list.powersandperils.org>
<br>Subject: Re: [PnP] META: chgame(docutementation) design
<br><br><div class="ydp993c06f3yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Richard wasn't a crappy writer. :) Unfortunately he's not with us so we have to learn from the mistakes of others.</div><div><br></div><div class="ydp993c06f3signature">--- It is with books as with the fire in our hearths; we go to a neighbor to get the embers and light it when we return home, pass it on to others, and it belongs to everyone.</div></div>
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On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:33:16 PM CDT, Thomas O. Magann Jr. <tmagann@earthlink.net> wrote:
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<br clear="none">From: Hsingai Altaica
<br clear="none">Sent: Jul 8, 2019 7:38 PM
<br clear="none">To: "Thomas O. Magann Jr."
<br clear="none">Subject: Re: [PnP] META: game(docutementation) design
<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603ydp54f5d8fayahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div dir="ltr">It's about how to write rules. hence the Meta tag.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">And the example is from Pathfinder.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div class="ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603ydp54f5d8fasignature">--- It is with books as with the fire in our hearths; we go to a neighbor to get the embers and light it when we return home, pass it on to others, and it belongs to everyone.</div></div>
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On Sunday, July 7, 2019, 10:38:01 AM CDT, Thomas O. Magann Jr. <tmagann@earthlink.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603ydpa17f1fc8yiv6358804390"><div><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif;">I'm thinking this was sent to the wrong list? Seems to be about D&D not P&P. Edition 3.5, I think.,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>And hasn't fireball always been 3rd level? Since the ORIGINAL original boxed set back in '74<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----
<br clear="none">From: Hsingai Altaica
<br clear="none">Sent: Jul 7, 2019 12:10 AM
<br clear="none">To: pnp@list.powersandperils.org
<br clear="none">Subject: [PnP] META: game(docutementation) design
<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603ydpa17f1fc8yiv6358804390yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr">Since I don't trust anyone else to behave like reasonable adults I thought I'd share my thoughts here</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">THe errata should be the final say on the rules and have all contradictions to the Rule Books. then Rule Books and finally to clear up ambiguities the FAQ.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"> "<span><span style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Varela, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Benefit</span><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Varela, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">: Pick one spell when you choose this trait. When you apply </span><a shape="rect" class="ydp69aaf99cyiv3542216603ydpa17f1fc8yiv6358804390" href="https://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats" style="text-decoration-line:underline;font-family:Varela, sans-serif;font-size:16px;color:rgb(0, 57, 101) !important;" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">metamagic feats</a><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:Varela, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> to this spell that add at least 1 level to the spell, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell’s final adjusted level."</span></span><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">THis wording has the affordance that Usually metamagic can't lower a spells adjusted level below it's actual level</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><h2 style="margin:24px 0px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-family:Sans Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-weight:normal;font-size:18px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);">THeir FAQ states:"Magical Lineage (trait): Can I use this trait to adjust a spell's effective level below the unmodified spell's original level?</h2><blockquote style="margin:15px;padding:0px;border:0px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:medium;"><p style="margin-top:0px;">No. For example, it won't allow you to alter a wizard's <i style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;">fireball</i> into 2nd-level spell." But the trait says that the original level of a wizard's fireball spell is 2 BEFORE being modified.</p></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div>
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