<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr">wow. awesome character idea!<br></div><div><span></span></div><br>  <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6504" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6503" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6502" dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6501" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alex Koponen <akoponen@mosquitonet.com><br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6500"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6499" style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> pnp@list.powersandperils.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 11, 2015 2:40 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [PnP] Shaman & Wizard<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6505" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6840205370"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6507">
    <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6506" class="yiv6840205370moz-cite-prefix">In Scott's game the character Z'leyra,
      brought in primarily as a healer, is a Shaman/Sidhe
      Magician/Balance Wizard. Her background is as a daughter of a
      shaman who wed a visiting Ticasi Scholar. Upon the shaman's death
      he was allowed to take one of his daughters (both of whom had
      trained as shaman) back to Ticasi with him. In Ticasi the daughter
      also learned Balance wizardry and made the acquaintance of some
      sidhe, (most notably Varange) from whom she learned to be a sidhe
      magician. Her official adventuring started after her father died.<br clear="none">
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      Yes, she had to pay the apprenticeship cost of all three paths.
      With decent attributes this gave her enough starting experience to
      start at MEL5.<br clear="none">
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      On 5/11/2015 7:28 AM, Thomas O. Magann Jr. wrote:<br clear="none">
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      <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv6840205370yqt0305375106" id="yiv6840205370yqt44901"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1431411176334_6514" style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Well, when it comes right down to it, just
        Wizard and Shaman would be iffy. Shamans are Elder oriented,
        Wizards are either Chaos, Law or Balance. Probably not.<br clear="none">
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        However, all 3 IS more possible. Wizard plus Sidhe allows for an
        Elder orientation Wizard, which allows for learning of Shaman
        spells without Shaman training, although there is no tonah bond.
        Actually taking the Shaman training would give the Bond, the
        natural magic itemss, and a couple of basic Shaman spells, such
        as the all important Orient Self.<br clear="none">
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        So, I'd say: Wizard plus Shaman: NO, All 3, YES, as long as
        Shaman was last.<br clear="none">
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        Of course, ultimately, it's up to your GM. A case for a Balance
        Wizard/Shaman could be made, and even for a Chaos Wizard/Kotothi
        Shaman with a Desert Lion Tonah tie.<br clear="none">
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        Note that Natural Mages can learn anything, which implies some
        immunity to Alignment restrictions, at least between Elder and
        Human (Wizardry) magic styles.<br clear="none">
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          From: Julian Draven 
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            Sent: May 10, 2015 4:57 PM
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            To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List ,
              The Powers and Perils Mailing List ,
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                  Subject: [PnP] Shaman & Wizard
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                          character pay the expertise cost to become
                          both a Shaman and a Wizard?</div>
                        <div dir="ltr">What about all three paths?
                          Wizard, Shaman and Sidh?<br clear="none">
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