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Most non-combat skills have absolutely no effect at EL 0. When you
use 0 in the formulas for what they do, it's nothing or a 0% chance of
sucess, etc. It's my thinking that if you pay the experise to actually
learn the skill, then you should actually be able to use the skill in
some capacity after paying that expertise. If someone wants to limit
what skills start at after the character generation, the Burton's idea
is workable.<br>
<br>
<br>
Choinski, Burton wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="2">I changed my formulas to use the LOWEST
characteristic of the formula when determining non-combat skill
defaults.</font>
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<p><font size="2">One can also make the case that the "starting
skill" benefit only applies at character generation, not during play,
so you start at 0 once learned.</font></p>
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<p><font size="2">-----Original Message-----</font>
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<font size="2">From: Alex Koponen [<a
href="mailto:akoponen@mosquitonet.com">mailto:akoponen@mosquitonet.com</a>]
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<font size="2">Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:21 PM</font>
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<font size="2">Subject: [PnP] In game skill acquisition</font>
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<p><font size="2">When a character, in game, acquires enough training
and expertise to </font>
<br>
<font size="2">learn a non-combat skill does the character:</font>
<br>
<font size="2">Get EL0 in that skill ?</font>
<br>
<font size="2">Get a starting level in that skill as implied under
Rule 2.41 ?</font>
<br>
<font size="2">I use the second but it does encounter the problem of
a big jump in </font>
<br>
<font size="2">effective skill when it is finally learned. To counter
that problem one </font>
<br>
<font size="2">can calculate what the starting level will be, figure
out what </font>
<br>
<font size="2">percentage of learning to the starting level has taken
place and </font>
<br>
<font size="2">calculate what the effective penalty is.</font>
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<p><font size="2">Seaman is an example of an Either/Or skill in many
ways.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">You either have it at EL0 or greater, in which case
you don't have </font>
<br>
<font size="2">combat penalties aboard moving ships OR you don't have
it at EL0 or </font>
<br>
<font size="2">better in which case you have a 50% penalty to your
OCV, DCV and weapon </font>
<br>
<font size="2">EL in combat aboard a moving ship.</font>
<br>
<font size="2">This fails to provide for gradual increase in skill as
one learns the </font>
<br>
<font size="2">skill but has not yet mastered it. When rewritten a
more gradual skill </font>
<br>
<font size="2">slope would be more realistic.</font>
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<p><font size="2"> Alex Koponen </font>
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