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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Yes, made CDF factor more of the other items.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>A while back in 84-86 or so I tried to tweak the CDF formula. I think I tried factoring in OCV and DCV as a part of the mix as well. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>I once tried to figure a basic "Average Estimated Damage per Phase" (AEDP) based on the average human "creature" stats -- basically calculated the average normal damage for the creature, times the percentage that a normal hit could be gained. Did the same for severe and deadly hits (factoring in 0 for miss and shield hits). Once I had the AEDP I had a "macro factor" that could be used for mass combat purposes. I forget what the AEDP was for normal humans. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Using AEDP was pretty simple: If Creature A has 30 AHP and an AEDP of 10, while creature B has 15 AHP and an AEDP of 2, simply use the highest AEDP:AHP difference as the "timeframe". At 30 AHP for "A" and 2 AEDP for "B" the timeframe is 15 phases. If takes 2 phases for creature "A"'s AEDP to eliminate one creature "B", so in rough effect, 15 phases/2 means that creature "A" is 7.5 times tougher then "creature "B".</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Once you figured out the stats for a normal man (the "norm"), you used DOUBLE the toughness rating as the CDF (since normal man vs normal man is equal to 1)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>By actually factoring in the combat table high DCV creatures actually become properly worth more, since they are harder to disable. Likewise, huge easily damaged creatures get marked down since even Joe Average can get some dings on them.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>The AHP and AEDP could at a future point be used for a Macro combat system.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Sylverrs_ dragon [<A HREF="mailto:abnaric@hotmail.com">mailto:abnaric@hotmail.com</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:06 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: pnp@abroere.xs4all.nl</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [PnP] Convocation</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>If I understand you, the suggestion is to minimize the CDF value of hit </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>points and increase the impact of magic, poison, etc. Correct? We could </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>change the AHP divisor to 15 or 20 and eliminate the MEL / BL divisor. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Whatcha think?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>>From: "Choinski, Burton" <Burton.Choinski@matrixone.com></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Reply-To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List <pnp@abroere.xs4all.nl></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>To: "'The Powers and Perils Mailing List'" <pnp@abroere.xs4all.nl></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Subject: RE: [PnP] Convocation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:38:47 -0400</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Ok, that's cool.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Is there going to be any change to the way that CDF is figured for </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>creatures</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>so that it is not just effectively "AHP^2"? Like I may have mentioned, my</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>group went out and HUNTED for earth giants since they were such easy</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>meat-on-feet. The base CDF being AHP/10, times AHP means these easy-to-hit</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>walls of flesh were prime targets. :P</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>From: Sylverrs_ dragon [<A HREF="mailto:abnaric@hotmail.com">mailto:abnaric@hotmail.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:27 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>To: pnp@abroere.xs4all.nl</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Subject: RE: [PnP] Convocation</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>New creatures, checking to make sure stats are right, editting, tightening</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>up the mythos, etc. Don't anticipate any major change in the way stats are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>presented.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >From: "Choinski, Burton" <Burton.Choinski@matrixone.com></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Reply-To: The Powers and Perils Mailing List <pnp@abroere.xs4all.nl></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >To: "'The Powers and Perils Mailing List'" <pnp@abroere.xs4all.nl></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Subject: RE: [PnP] Convocation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:06:54 -0400</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >In what way do you mean "improvement"? Is this a restructure of the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>actual</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >creature content, or a revising of how the creature stats are presented</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >(which has implications as to how character stats are done, yes?)</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >From: Sylverrs_ dragon [<A HREF="mailto:abnaric@hotmail.com">mailto:abnaric@hotmail.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:40 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >To: pnp@abroere.xs4all.nl</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Subject: RE: [PnP] Convocation</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >Just a note. I am working on a major improvement of the creatures. It</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >should</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >be ready in a few weeks. If anyone has any creature ideas they want to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >share, let me know. You can add them to the list or write me here (</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >abnaric@hotmail.com ).</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >WOUT - Don't do anything with the creature stuff I sent you months ago.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >These changes supercede them. Let me know how you want the new stuff to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> >sent in.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> > >Richard</FONT>
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