[PnP] pnp Digest, Vol 133, Issue 15- a grammar note
Wout Broere
broere at powersandperils.org
Wed Sep 6 07:25:22 CEST 2017
I have those notes, but in the end I scanned and OCR'ed books 3 and 4 to
get the base for the new edition. Still, the OCR is not perfect and I do
find some things that are not perfect.
Problem is there are so many errata and remarks from Richard over the
list indicating small changes, that I sometimes lose track of what is an
intended change and what is a scan+OCR mistake.
Wout
On 06-09-17 03:16, Scott Adams wrote:
>
> Hope you didn't use m book 4 cheat notes file. I made it in '90s
> Didn't even care to spell check it.
> But I use it for quick reference. I did look online for book 4 and
> think i saw it.
> But ignored it.
> Its not for public really. ;)
> Was spur of moment 30 years ago.
>
>
> At 04:42 PM 9/4/2017, you wrote:
>> I have changed this to
>> "Where the parent is inimical, the character is always sired by a
>> non-human father."
>>
>> Found a few typo's/scan erros in the NMI section and have corrected
>> those. If anyone else has textual chnges/corrections, please let me know.
>>
>> Wout
>>
>> On 29-11-16 22:35, Bessie Hadley wrote:
>>> "Where a Sire is inimical, the father is always the Sire." Sire means
>>> "father, or male parent." Can that be made less awkward, or maybe we
>>> need to rephrase it another way - gave me a double-take & a giggle
>>> (tch, tch). Thanks for the information anyway.
>>>
>>> Bess L. Hadley
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>>> Ok guys. Richard is our God and never makes no
>>> mistakes. Its lowly
>>> humans who mis read and interpret these wonderful world of
>>> P&P.
>>>
>>> First I've been making great progress on my ship project
>>> after years
>>> of idle time. i've cut down the data to half. A
>>> big step. :) More
>>> work I've done this last couple months in years.
>>>
>>> Second I'm also in my spare time (hour there and here)
>>> working on
>>> a pc generator. I did one years ago but its outdated.
>>>
>>> I've come up with this confusing thing...half breeds.
>>> We may dislike
>>> them and think it stupid. But we still need to figure
>>> it out.
>>>
>>> Recap: Normally we are Human, Dwarf, Elf, Faerry.
>>>
>>> So heres the rule:
>>>
>>> HALFBREEDS (OPTIONAL)
>>>
>>> There are other races that can have viable
>>> offspring with
>>> humans. The result of such unions is
>>> halfbreed characters
>>> that may share some or all of the talents
>>> of their non-human
>>> sire. If the race is beneficent, the
>>> initial training of the
>>> character depends on the sex of his
>>> mother. If she is human,
>>> he is raised human. If not, he is raised
>>> non-human.
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Let's break that down.
>>> 1. First line other races with humans = half
>>> breed.
>>> So this means a rampaging goblin
>>> Human. It doesn't mention
>>> Elf/Faerry. (DWarves we learn
>>> later can't have half breeds).
>>> 2. So next big part is share genetics from non
>>> human (X) and Human
>>> again restricting it to Human only.
>>> ------
>>>
>>> Where the sire is inimical, the sire is always the father.
>>> In most
>>> cases, the mother dies giving birth to him and he is
>>> fostered to
>>> another human family. No other possibility leaves a
>>> character extant
>>> to be played.
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Last line could be seen differently as your either a half
>>> human or
>>> nothing else.
>>>
>>> ------
>>> NOTE - I only mention those races whose breeding with humans
>>> can
>>> possibly yield a playable character. Among those I omit are
>>> the
>>> children of daivas, drugas and high caste Korchi. The first
>>> two
>>> are automatically daivas or drugas. The last is rarely found
>>> outside
>>> Korchi territory (unless conquering someone).
>>> ----
>>> So richard seems to imply that his chart below is only for
>>> human and
>>> X mixes. So again this implies no Elf/Faerry.
>>>
>>> ------
>>> BEING A HALFBREED
>>> Because Characters are exceptional
>>> members of their
>>> race a player who
>>> wishes to try for this attribute has
>>> a 10% chance of
>>> having a halfbreed character UNLESS his
>>> character is a Dwarf.
>>> There are no Dwarf halfbreeds.
>>> If the Character is a halfbreed the
>>> Referee may assign
>>> the non-human parent
>>> based on where the campaign is
>>> starting. If he does
>>> not choose to do so, roll on the
>>> Breeding Races table.
>>> Once the race is determined, roll
>>> 1D2 for the non-human
>>> parents sex if necessary. The
>>> parent's sex will affect
>>> the Character's starting
>>> knowledge and other
>>> factors.
>>> -------
>>> So we see here Dwarves can't be half breeds. Yet we
>>> read above it
>>> implies that only humans can be such? Huh?
>>> So Ref can figure out non human parent implying possible
>>> Elf/Faerry?
>>> Then h ementions the d2 for non human parent which brings us
>>> back to
>>> one must be human.
>>>
>>> -----
>>> BREEDING RACES (Roll D100)
>>> ROLL RACE
>>> ROLL RACE
>>> ROLL RACE
>>> 01 Alfar
>>> 24-30 Nymph
>>> 76-79 Trazire
>>> 02+03 Incubus* 31-35
>>> Faerry 80-82 Sernemu
>>> 04+05 Pseudothei* 36-42
>>> Jinn 83-86 Devil*
>>> 06+07 Anwora*
>>> 43-48 Demon*
>>> 87-90 Whisper
>>> 08-10 Daoine Sidhe* 49-55 Elf
>>> 91-93 Seirim*
>>> 11-13 Vily
>>> 56-58 True Sidhe 94+95 Lunafey
>>> 14-16 Troll* 59-64
>>> Nar'morel 96+97 Eld Troll*
>>> 17-20 Baobhan
>>> 65-67 Romati
>>> 98+99 Fusin
>>> 21-23 Mir
>>> 68-75 Goblin*
>>> 100 Green Lady
>>>
>>> ----
>>> So I see Flf in table. Human/Elf fine.
>>> But why not a Elf-Vily?
>>>
>>> -----
>>> * These races are always the FATHER in the union. In some
>>> cases this
>>> is because only males exist. For others, the child with that
>>> race as
>>> mother does not yield a playable character.
>>>
>>>
>>> So....
>>>
>>> Are there Human / X Half breeds only?
>>>
>>> Why does he say no Half-Dwarves if its only
>>> humans?
>>>
>>> That would imply a Elf / X or Faerry / X
>>>
>>> If that Dwarf wasn't there I'd say its only
>>> Human / X.
>>> But that also seems unfair. Why can't a
>>> Elf and Demon
>>> mix?
>>>
>>> Wout seems to agree with me that the wording
>>> needs work.
>>>
>>> How do you follow these rules. Thanks!
>>>
>>> So I can code it. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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