[PnP] Innate Magics

Scott Adams longshotgm at comcast.net
Mon Mar 13 03:56:51 CET 2017

I agree somewhat.  Not environmental but more internal.  Its not just 
bumping.  Its personal distractions.  Pain from torture.  Stomach 
pains from bad food.  Pleasure from sex.  So based on those htings is 
how good or bad spell works.

Probably more simple than a simple modifier to magic roll.
-20 pain
-5 blinding light
-2 noise
+20 using a meditation technique
-5 Smoke in area, etc.

Just 35 years never considerd this.  I mean monsters are innates.  So 
they can cahrge/cast.
So why not.  So yeah I think Innates can move/cast.

Wizards can't move/cast
Innates Move/cast
Shamans need focus and some could argue they could move (shaman dance, etc).
Priests I guess could use Religious trinkets (crosses, talismans, 
etc) but to me not move since priests are more forced directional magic.

At 12:34 AM 3/12/2017, you wrote:
>After giving my opinion, I sat and thought a bit about the mechanics 
>behind my answer.
>This is based on V1, which is what I use.
>MEL for innates is based on experience, while EL is based on stats. 
>This can make for a a bit of a disparity compared to a mage with one 
>MEL for many spells, each of which boosts his MEL. An Innate gets 
>Experience form just tone one spell, although his expertise gains 
>also go towards MEL. Still, if he doesn't use it much but has high 
>stats, he can have a highg EL and, hence, spend a few phases getting 
>the Energy together to trigger it.
>My assumption is that there's going to be some level of distraction 
>during this time period. Also that high EL (hence, stronger) spells 
>will require more attention.
>So, I'd say use the EL of the innate spell as a perception penalty. 
>That calls for perception rolls, of course.
>A few exist. It would be a penalty to setting an ambush, and  abonus 
>to the ambush someone has set against you. You'd give them a bonus 
>to avoid, or take a penalty to avoid yourself. Each of these rolls 
>happens once, and only of the ambush is triggered during the casting time.
>Apply the EL as a penalty to any Tracking or Trailing, and roll each 
>phase of spell casting. If you fail the trail is lost and you can 
>reacquire when the spell is done, including canceling the casting to 
>reacquire immediately. Standard track/trail rules apply to reacquire.
>And, basically, that just leaves bumping into things.
>Set a BL of 10, modified by the local terrain. A glass smooth desert 
>with no obstacles, including other beings, would likely be a BL20. A 
>dungeon death trap/obstacle course could be a BL0.
>Make the roll, adding the EL of the spell to the roll. Roll each 
>phase. Allow for partial success.
>-A Success is fine, you didn't bump into anything or anyone.
>-A Partial Success means you noticed in time to stop yourself, but 
>may have lost concentration on the spell. Roll on the same BL, but 
>this time instead of adding the spell EL, subtract your Will Bonus.
>-A Failure means you bumped into something and lost the spell. That 
>is likely all it means, unless there is something specific about the 
>terrain that might be more dangerous, like if you are alone in a 
>field of prickly cacti. If so, the GM will need to determine damage 
>based on circumstance.
>-An Abyssal Failure means you really stepped int he wrong place: 
>Tripped over a root, found the lone gopher hole or animal burrow in 
>a empty field, etc. Assume a trip-and-fall and 1d6 damage (negated 
>only by some sort of acrobatics skill, if any, but NOT Climbing), 
>again, unless the GMdetermines that the terrain is more hazardous. 
>If so, whatever the terrain would do on a failure plus the 1d6, at minimum.
>That's what I came up with, anyhow.
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: " Thomas O. Magann Jr." <tmagann at earthlink.net>
> >Can they? Probably. Should they? I would think there is a bit of 
> tunnel vision involved, much like texting while driving or some 
> such. Doing two things at once, and doing both well are very different things.
> >
> >I'd say to be careful in dense wood about bumping into trees, and 
> to walk alongside cliff sides very slowly and carefully until the 
> innate magic was done being cast.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Scott Adams <longshotgm at comcast.net>
> >>So MUs can't move and cast OR chew gum and rub stomach at same time.
> >>
> >>Do Innates suffer this same fate?
> >>Since most agree Innate is through thought.
> >>I've not thought of this before.
> >>I suspect they can move.
> >>Since creatures can move/cast.
> >>
> >>
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