[PnP] Elf Hiding

[Scott Adams]

Good stuff.  I'll have to play test it and see how it goes.
Thanks.

At 05:29 PM 8/19/2017, you wrote:
>I believe I did, would have to check Wout’s site.
>
>My skill variant page had stealth, but no mention of a notice skill.
>
>Stealth15NEL x 6(A + Em)/10 + StB
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>I would probably have Notice as:
>
>Notice15NEL x 6(I + Em)/10 + CB
>
>
>The CB is due to the presumption that a healthier person has clearer senses.
>
>These skills, as noted, does make a high Em elf 
>pretty good for his max skill.  An elf in the 
>Forest would gain an additional Em/10 to their skill.
>
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>Burton Choinski
><mailto:bchoinski at verizon.net>bchoinski at verizon.net
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>
>
>
>>On Aug 18, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Scott Adams 
>><<mailto:longshotgm at comcast.net>longshotgm at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Glad to see you back around.
>>This does add a bit more flair and edge to the elves over a hunter in cmamo.
>>Will think on this.
>>Didn't you do a STealth skill in your old New 
>>Skilsl stuff you did years ago?  My rules are on old pc whcih is off so can't
>>check.
>>
>>
>>At 08:06 PM 8/17/2017, you wrote:
>>>I think when I was running my P&P world using 
>>>a home-brew system, they way I played it is 
>>>that the Elf’s Empathy added to their 
>>>stealth. We viewed it as as sort of like the 
>>>Forest “Helped” the elf hide, by 
>>>drooping branches, tightening up bushes, 
>>>leaves flashing out so as to provide more cover, etc.  Thus the use of Empathy
>>>
>>>Now P&P core does not have stealth, or a 
>>>corresponding notice skill. One could assume 
>>>that “Stealth” is a skill that 
>>>everyone has, and is basically Agility for any 
>>>task roles (multiplied by the difficulty 
>>>modifier), and the noticing of a stealthy 
>>>target is based on Int (perception, knowing 
>>>what to look for).  In this case, an elf in 
>>>the forest adds Empathy to both their Agility 
>>>to be sneaky, AND their Int when looking for 
>>>sneaking targets (the forest helps there as well, by rustling branches, etc).
>>>
>>>If people have added an actual Stealth and 
>>>Notice skill, add Empathy if it is an “or 
>>>80” skill or Em/5 for normal skills.
>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>Burton Choinski
>>><mailto:bchoinski at verizon.net>bchoinski at verizon.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Aug 17, 2017, at 7:41 PM, Thomas O. Magann 
>>>>Jr. <<mailto:tmagann at earthlink.net>tmagann at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Folks, while in some game systems Elves are 
>>>>magically invisible in forests, in most they 
>>>>just have the same Stealth Skills any human 
>>>>might. The question is: How good is the elf at hiding?
>>>>
>>>>Or, to answer the original question: With my 
>>>>eyes, if they're young, or With a Detect Hidden Spell, if they're old.
>>>>
>>>>In P&P they may not be invisible. It depends, 
>>>>like so much, on their stats, which are 
>>>>experienced based. An average Elf, starting 
>>>>out, only have about a 22% chance of going unnoticed.
>>>>
>>>>Don't give them too much credit. By the time 
>>>>your characters are dealing with the older 
>>>>ones, either you're skilled(and older, yourself) or you're in deep mulch.
>>>>
>>>>Also, simply because their ability IS 
>>>>magical, they may be sloppy. Branches force 
>>>>out of true, foot prints on the ground, etc. 
>>>>All the things Stealth wouldn't leave, invisibility does.
>>>>
>>>>Look for the things they forget to conceal, 
>>>>because they assume you can't see them, so why bother?
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Scott Adams <<mailto:longshotgm at comcast.net>longshotgm at comcast.net >
>>>>>Sent: Aug 17, 2017 4:22 PM
>>>>>To: <mailto:pnp at list.powersandperils.org>pnp at list.powersandperils.org
>>>>>Subject: [PnP] Elf Hiding
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>You don't see an Elf Hiding in the Forest.  They are real good at
>>>>>that kind of stuff.
>>>>>>;)
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>YEah but it seems way too arbitary.  So if a Elf is 2 feet away in
>>>>>front of you you just don't see him? Just too easy.
>>>>>The rules elaborate details but it seems a weird thing.  So Elf and
>>>>>Hunter compete to hide.
>>>>>They should have good skills.  But this elf hiding thing seems like
>>>>>almost a automatic
>>>>>than a chance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mechanically at least.
>>>>>I understand the basic idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just think the rule on this could be tweaked.  I never got to
>>>>>thinking on it till recently.
>>>>>Was curious if folks tweaked this skill/rule/mechanic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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